Nov. 11, 2022 – Stock Market Updates

What Happened in the Stock Market As of Nov. 11, 2022?

Last week was a bit of a roller coaster for US markets with mid-term elections and inflation data driving the moves. When the US inflation data for October came in at 7.7% (below the expected 8%) investors loved the prospect of a less aggressive Fed, so markets rallied.

While it’s too early to tell, it was essentially evidence that inflation might finally be slowing, which is what the Fed said it needed to see in order to slow down the pace and size of rate increases.

U.S. Sector 7D Performance – 11th November 2022 – Simply Wall St

Some of the developments we have been watching over the last week include:

  • Commodity producers rallied amidst rumors of an end to China’s zero-Covid approach. While the rumors seem to be unfounded, there may be more to the relative strength of mining companies.
  • Oil companies are making record profits as the shortage of capacity becomes increasingly apparent.

Commodity stocks are outperforming

The shares of commodity producers (and specifically industrial metal miners) like Rio Tinto  (LSE:RIO) , Vale (BOVESPA:VALE3), Southern Copper  (NYSE:SCCO), and Freeport-McMoRan (NYSE:FCX) woke up last week amid speculation that China will abandon its zero covid policy. Chinese officials have since denied the rumors , but it nevertheless shows just how sensitive commodity-related shares are to China’s economy.

The relative strength of commodity producers (both metals and energy stocks) over the last few weeks may also be related to the fact that the USD’s rally has paused. But some analysts also believe we are in the early stages of a new commodity super cycle . That may seem at odds with the current economic climate, particularly with regard to China’s economy. But, commodity cycles take a long time to evolve, and there are some reasons to believe a new super cycle is beginning.

Let’s have a look at how cycles play out in the commodity markets.

How do commodity cycles work?

The prices of commodities move in cycles that represent the relationship between supply and demand over time. A commodity cycle goes something like this: When demand for a commodity begins to outpace supply, the price of that commodity rises, and producers make higher margins. The higher margins incentivise more investment in production – ie. planting more crops, expanding mines, building refineries etc.

Eventually, with enough investment in increased production, supply catches up with demand and the price stops rising. But margins are still good, so producers carry on increasing their output – which ultimately leads to oversupply. Prices then begin to fall as producers compete with one another.

When the price falls far enough, output begins to fall too. In the case of agricultural commodities, farmers may simply choose to plant fewer crops. With metals, producers may shut down some mines and unprofitable producers may face bankruptcy. Prices stop falling when supply and demand are back in equilibrium. And then, when demand catches up with supply, the cycle starts again.

Of course, these cycles are also affected by other factors like the business cycle, the weather, labor disputes, supply chain dynamics and geopolitics, as we have seen in the last few years. The cycles followed by agricultural commodities are also closely related to weather patterns and seasonal demand. Nevertheless, the underlying cycle still occurs regardless of temporary factors.

What is a commodity super cycle?

Metals and energy commodities experience particularly long cycles, or super cycles, because of the capital-intensive nature of increasing production.

When prices are rising, there is a lag – that can last for years – between a company deciding to invest in a new project and that project becoming productive. This means it can take years for supply to catch up with demand.

When prices are falling, producers don’t simply stop producing. They usually hope the price slump will be temporary. So, they continue to produce despite falling margins, which keeps the pressure on the price. That means it takes longer for demand to catch up with supply.

These dynamics create very long cycles. The chart below reflects the price of iron ore from 1997 to 2022. The period from 2001 to 2011 is generally regarded as the bullish phase of a super cycle (interrupted by the GFC). The phase from 2011 to 2019, was the bearish phase of the same cycle which resulted from oversupply.

Iron ore price from 1997 to 2022 – Data from: IndexMundi

In summary, the price rose by 550% and then fell 80% over an 18-year period. This chart is for iron ore specifically, but the prices of  oil, copper, and other industrial commodities followed similar paths.

Looking at the chart above, you might assume there were large swings in production and consumption too. Au contraire – the chart below shows what global consumption looked like from 2010 to 2019, while the price fell as much as 80%. Global output followed a similar trend and was closely matched to demand. It only takes minor imbalances to move prices a long way.

Iron ore global consumption (million metric tons) 2010 to 2019 – Image Credit: Statista

💡 The Insight: Not all commodity producers are created equal. 

As the global economy grows, annual consumption of commodities like oil and industrial metals rises steadily and seldom falls,  even during a recession . The problem is that when commodity prices fall, producers stop investing in new productive capacity. In fact they tend to pay out any profits they do make as dividends to stop investors from selling their shares. Global capital expenditure by global mining companies was lower between 2016 and 2019 than it was during the GFC.

The massive spike in the iron ore price in 2021 was caused by supply chain issues, and the decline that followed was caused by the slowdown in China’s economy, and everything else that’s happened this year. But if forecasts come true, it seems that over the longer term, supply will inevitably catch up with demand. And that’s why analysts are calling for another super cycle.

For Short or Medium-Term Investors (< 5 years)

Regardless of the longer term cycle, commodities and the prices of commodity producers are still very sensitive to various factors:

  • Expectations for global GDP growth and specifically China’s economy which has been the biggest consumer of commodities over the last 20 years. While consumption rises steadily over time, small changes in demand can have a big impact on prices in the short term.
  • Inflation: Commodity prices generally rise with inflation. However, inflation also eats into the producers’ margins in the form of higher energy and labor costs.
  • The US dollar : Commodities are priced in USD, which can be a headwind when the USD appreciates relative to other currencies. However, it can also act as a tailwind for commodity demand when the USD weakens.

These factors have all played a role this year – and are likely to do so for the foreseeable future.

For Long-Term Investors (5+ years)

Commodity prices can move in persistent trends that last for years at a time. If you are investing in the shares of commodity producers, pay attention to these underlying trends, and where we might be in the cycle.

If the stock you’re looking at is a late-stage explorer or an early-stage producer without binding pricing contracts, it may not be able to survive a downturn in commodity prices unless it has enough cash on hand (so check the financial health of the business on our company report) . And if it doesn’t start production in the first few years of the supercycle, it won’t benefit as much as the established producers who are reaping those higher prices from early on.

But if you’re looking at those more mature producers, they typically have well-established production capacity and efficiencies that allows them to weather most kinds of slowdowns, and thrive during the booms.

So when looking at any commodity producer for the long term, it’s worth asking: where might we be in 5 or more years time (in terms of prices), and can this company survive any turbulence on the way there? (E.g. Do they have existing production capacity, diversity of commodities produced, and a strong cash balance?)

Oil companies are making record profits

We saw another consequence of the boom-bust nature of commodity cycles when two of America’s oil giants recently reported record profits. Exxon Mobil (NYSE: XOM) reported a record-setting $19.7 bln in quarterly net income, while Chevron (NYSE:CVX) wasn’t far behind with $11.2 bln. This prompted President Biden to propose a windfall profit tax on these companies if they don’t increase production. Biden wants lower prices for consumers, but the underlying problem runs a lot deeper. Energy companies have also underinvested in productive capacity over the last decade – and they have even less incentive than miners to do so.

Oil Capacity – Show me the incentive, and I’ll show you the action

There is general agreement that the world needs to move to renewable energy. But there isn’t enough renewable energy (or storage capacity) to make that happen just yet. At the same time, oil and gas companies have been told for years that their days are numbered and, now that prices are higher, that their excess profits will be taxed.

Put yourself in the shoes of an oil producer, and there was hardly any incentive to re-invest in new capacity over the last decade. This is why it should come as no surprise that we’ve seen falling investment since 2013. Capex (how much they’re investing) has picked up slightly now, but as we know, there’s quite a long lead time till they contribute to production, and this is what it looked like prior to 2020:

Oil and Gas Capex 2010 to 2020 – Image Credit: NaturalGasIntel

But wait, there’s more. On top of this, North America and Europe have fraught relationships with many of the world’s top energy producing countries (which fall under OPEC+). OPEC meanwhile is cutting production to prevent the oil price from falling.

 The Insight: A little diversification never hurt anybody

Ultimately, the lack of capacity is at the heart of the problem. Russia’s war in Ukraine brought the problem to a head, but the West did little to increase its own capacity and production. This is the reason the US energy sector is up 50% over the last year, when the rest of the market is down more than 20%. Like industrial metals, some analysts believe the bull market in energy is just beginning , and it will take even higher energy prices to attract the investment that’s needed to increase supply.

What this means for investors

Last week we looked at the second dot com bust that seems to be occurring. This week we’ve covered energy stocks that are up 50% over the last year, and the miners which have fallen 11%, but comfortably outperformed the market.

The last year has been a great example of the power of diversification. The US energy and US materials sectors can be quite unpredictable and volatile, but they are far less correlated to the broader market than other sectors. The remaining sectors are up during most years, but give back a lot of those gains during the occasional bear market. By spreading your portfolio across multiple sectors, you can reduce the overall volatility, which makes it a lot easier to sleep at night. If you’re looking for energy stocks, we’ve compiled a list of 6 energy stocks that benefit from rising energy prices .

Key Events Next Week

It’s a busy week for economic data in the UK with the unemployment rate, the inflation rate, a fiscal statement, and retail sales all due.

In the US the key release will be PPI on Tuesday. There is also retail sales data coming out on Wednesday and housing data due on Thursday and Friday.

Earnings season is winding down, but there are still a few large retailers and tech companies reporting this week. They include:

For next week:

  • Democrats fared better than expected in the mid-term elections, but the GOP (Republicans) looks set to win control of the House of Representatives (at the time of writing).

US Elections went better than expected for Democrats – but still point to Gridlock

Democrats fared better than expected in last week’s midterm elections, but still lost control of the House of Representatives and may lose control of the Senate, pending a runoff election.

Gridlock like this is generally considered a good thing for equity markets . When the presidency is in the hands of one party, and the other party has control of at least one of the houses of congress, there’s less chance of major legislation being passed. This leaves less room for uncertainty – and we know that markets don’t like uncertainty.

US equity markets also have a very good record in the period following midterm elections . In fact, the market has been higher a year later after the last 19 midterm elections – so a perfect record.

Will it be 20 out of 20? Possibly, but these types of relationships tend to work until they don’t, so perhaps not something to bet the house on.

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Simply Wall St analyst Richard Bowman and Simply Wall St have no position in any of the companies mentioned. This article is general in nature. We provide commentary based on historical data and analyst forecasts only using an unbiased methodology and our articles are not intended to be financial advice. It does not constitute a recommendation to buy or sell any stock and does not take account of your objectives, or your financial situation. We aim to bring you long-term focused analysis driven by fundamental data. Note that our analysis may not factor in the latest price-sensitive company announcements or qualitative material.


Nov. 4, 2022 – Stock Market Updates

What Happened in the Stock Market As of Nov. 4, 2022?

Global Stock Market Insights for week ending 4th of November from Simplywall.St

You’d be forgiven for feeling a bit of Deja Vu this past week since the Fed raised rates again by 0.75% for the 4th consecutive time this year. Add to that the heavy selling in some big name tech stocks, and you might be feeling even more Deja Vu, but of the  Dotcom bust variety.

While the rate increase came as no surprise, the accompanying commentary gave the market mixed messages, which definitely contributed to the volatility. You may recall the importance of the Fed’s commentary from our prior piece covering how they choose their wording wisely.

The latest commentary gave hints that the pace of hikes could slow, however there were also indications that the inflationary data was still ‘hot’ . With that kind of inconclusive commentary, investors opted to take some money off the table in rate sensitive industries like the tech, communications and consumer discretionary sectors. Meanwhile energy, industrials and financials faired better since the latest jobs data suggested the economy was still strong.

U.S. Sector 7D Performance – 2nd November 2022 – Simply Wall St

While plenty has happened over this last week, we’re going to dive into just one topic:

  • Many tech stocks, big and small, have been hammered over the last year, and investors are wondering if this is a repeat of the Dotcom bust of the early 2000’s.

There’s plenty to unpack here, so let’s dive in.

Is this a Dotcom Crash 2.0?

The performance of tech stocks over the last few years draws obvious parallels with the Dotcom bubble and bust 22 years ago.

Here’s why:

  • In the five years to March 2000, the Nasdaq Composite index rose 489% , and then it fell 75% over an 18 month period.
  • In the five years to November 2021 the same index appreciated by 205% , and it’s since fallen as much as 35% .

Now, the numbers aren’t quite as big, but then again, the index heavyweights of today are more mature and profitable companies compared to the heavyweights back then.

Were tech stocks in a bubble at the end of last year?

Depends on who you ask, but most say yes. In short, a bubble occurs when stock prices rise until valuations become divorced from economic reality. The bubble bursts when the market runs out of buyers as reality catches up and the euphoria disappears. It often takes a catalyst like rising rates or corporate bankruptcies to trigger the bust.

Is that what has occurred this time around? Mmm, yes and no. There are actually two groups of companies to consider: large-cap tech stocks and smaller, hyper-growth stocks.

The broader tech sector, which is dominated by large-cap stocks, was trading on a price-earnings multiple (PE ratio) of 40 to 45x through much of 2020 and 2021. Now while that’s high relative to historical price multiples for the S&P 500 index, it’s not totally unrealistic considering the strong earnings growth the largest companies in the index were achieving at the time. It might’ve been justified IF they could sustain the growth. But they couldn’t.

Those indexes peaked in November last year, and have since fallen – first because interest rates began to rise, and more recently because growth is slowing AND costs are rising (which compresses profit margins).

The stocks of smaller, rapidly growing companies are a very different story. Many of these stocks actually peaked more than 18 months ago. Good examples are Zoom Video (Nasdaq:ZM), Teladoc Health (NYSE:TDOC) and Roku (Nasdaq:ROKU), which were all top holdings of the popular ARK ETFs. These stock prices were trading on a price-to-sales ratio (PS ratio) of 30x or more, which was arguably in speculative bubble territory given the growth and risk prospects at the time.

Rising interest rates brought an end to that party – but you could argue valuations were unsustainable to start with. For a company trading at more than 30x sales to deliver a return, it needs to grow sales profitably, and at a high rate for a very long time. It’s not impossible, but few do it, let alone an entire group of stocks.

So it’s fair to say that these ‘hyper growth’ stocks were in a bubble and their valuations are being brought back down to earth as reality is setting in and the euphoria subsides. The larger companies are facing an earnings recession, and valuations are being compressed as rates rise and earnings forecasts are re-rated lower. Some companies like Meta (Nasdaq: META) and Amazon (NASDAQ: AMZN) are facing company specific challenges too.

How did we get here?

The way this has unfolded shouldn’t be a huge shock, but here’s a very simplified version:

  • We had a decade of super-low interest rates as most central banks tried to stimulate their economies to reach their inflation targets of 2-3%
  • On top of that, we have had several new and exciting industries – AI, cloud, automation, SaaS etc – which produced mouthwatering growth rates over a period of five years. Unfortunately though, these things don’t go on forever.
  • Then we hit a huge spike in inflation due in part to extensive monetary support to markets and supply chain issues globally.
  • Central banks then had to reverse course and try to normalise inflation and reduce consumer demand by raising rates and removing monetary support, which subsequently made money more expensive (higher borrowing rates) and stock valuations less justified (due to higher discount rates).

💡 The Insight: History doesn’t always repeat… but it often rhymes.

It’s important to remember that no business is worth an infinite price, no matter how great its prospects are. The following examples from the fallout from the first dotcom bubble might give us a few ideas of what we could expect going forward.

Cisco vs Nvidia

Parallels have been drawn between Cisco Systems (Nasdaq: CSCO) in 2000 and Nvidia (Nasdaq: NVDA) now. Cisco provided, and still does, some of the key hardware required to build the internet. Between 1998 and 2002, Cisco’s market value ballooned as investors began to realize how big the internet could be, and the company very briefly became the most valuable company in the world. Cue investor euphoria.

Nasdaq:CSCO share price 1990 to 2022 – Simply Wall St

Despite the company’s revenue and cash flows increasing by nearly 400% since then, the share price is still lower than its 2000 peak.

Nvidia is now in a similar position. It’s the world’s leading producer of GPUs which are key to cloud computing, AI, virtual reality, automation, blockchain, you name it – pretty much all the growing industries. Since Nvidia’s share price peaked last year, it has fallen as much as 67%, while the price-to-sales ratio has fallen from 34x to 10x. Cisco’s P/S ratio peaked at 49x and then fell to 2x.

This doesn’t mean things will play out the same way for Nvidia – but it’s a reminder of what can happen.

Interestingly though, even if you didn’t time the bottom perfectly on Cisco back in late 2002, it has returned roughly 12% per year for nearly 20 years, becoming a steady long-term compounder. This is a great reminder on the importance of valuation and Buffett’s old adage: buy high-quality businesses at a fair price, and then wait.

Amazon’s First Dotcom Bust

This ain’t Amazon’s first rodeo. If we agree that we are witnessing the second dotcom bust, then we should have a look at what happened to Amazon (Nasdaq:AMZN) the first time around, back when it was THE dotcom stock. Back in 2000, Amazon, was six years old and had been publicly traded for three years – much like many of the high-flying tech companies we know 20 years later.

What happened next is well known. Here’s Amazon’s share price from 1998 to 2011 (split adjusted).

Nasdaq: AMZN share price 1998 to 2011 (split adjusted) – Image Credit:

The price peaked at a split-adjusted $5.65 (which was $113 prior to the 2022 20-to-1 stock split) before falling 95% in less than two years. Despite phenomenal business performance following the crash, it didn’t regain its peak price until October 2009.

So how did Amazon’s underlying business perform during that period? Quite well actually. Here’s the annual revenue and net income from 1996 to 2005. Revenue rose every year, with only a slight deceleration in 2001. The net loss was slightly wider in 2000, but the margin was similar to the previous year.

Nasdaq: AMZN revenue and net income 1996 to 2005 -Data from DazeInfo

An important note: Looking at Amazon entails survivorship bias because most other companies trading on similar valuations didn’t survive the first dotcom crash. But there’s a lesson we can take away if we dig beneath the surface.

In those early days without the scale or profits it has now, Amazon had what others didn’t: a cash cushion. It had just raised $672m in convertible bonds (debt that can be converted into stock) from European markets in early 2000. Despite Amazon’s business metrics improving drastically during the dot com boom and bust , this cash arguably gave it a huge buffer and support it needed to survive the downturn. So when you’re looking at stocks today, be sure to check two things:

  1. Assess their Financial Health (Like AMZN’s for example ) on Simply Wall St . Check if the company’s cash balance is enough to last a downturn, and if they have any debt, make sure it’s affordable.
  2. Check the underlying business metrics. If the business is still improving, or still growing, then the large drops in price could provide appealing opportunities to build a position in your portfolio for the long term, provided the valuation makes sense and you understand the business.

Counter-cyclical investing

One of the things that sometimes defines long-term winners is that they carry on investing during bear markets and recessions. Amazon , Alphabet , and Apple laid many of the foundations for their future success by continuing to invest between 2000 and 2005. This doesn’t always work – many of Microsoft’s investments at the same time didn’t work out – but when it does it gives companies a strong edge down the line.

Meta (Nasdaq: META) is doing that right now. However, since the stock is now 75% below its peak, investors appear to be abandoning the stock and questioning the strategy. This excellent article by Ben Thompson looks at why Meta might be doing exactly the right thing at the moment.

💡 The Insights: Key lessons from booms and busts

To summarise this piece, here are a few of the key lessons:

  • The most compelling stories can create the most overvalued stocks. If you add low interest rates to the mix, you have the perfect recipe for a bubble. Focus on the fundamentals of the business, and remember no stock is worth an infinite price, no matter how good it is.
  • Anchoring bias is something investors need to be careful of. This is the tendency to view recent prices or valuations as ‘normal’ or as targets when prices begin to recover. When a bubble bursts we need to base our expectations on fundamentals and established valuation methods. Stocks that traded at extreme valuations may never regain their all-time highs.
  • We also need to be careful about extrapolating trends – and particularly growth trends – into the future. A company’s growth will eventually be constrained by the market it operates in. We can’t really be sure of how big a company’s market will get, so the best we can do is be conservative when we make our estimates of the future.
  • What a company does during a downturn can provide clues as to how it might perform in the future. Companies that keep investing are often the ones to keep an eye on.

Key Events Next Week

The key event this week will probably be the US midterm elections on Tuesday.

Apart from that, it’s a quiet week for economic data – notable data includes the US inflation prints due on Wednesday and UK GDP data due Friday.

Most of the large companies have reported already, but there are still hundreds of smaller companies due to report, including:

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Simply Wall St analyst Richard Bowman and Simply Wall St have no position in any of the companies mentioned. This article is general in nature. We provide commentary based on historical data and analyst forecasts only using an unbiased methodology and our articles are not intended to be financial advice. It does not constitute a recommendation to buy or sell any stock and does not take account of your objectives, or your financial situation. We aim to bring you long-term focused analysis driven by fundamental data. Note that our analysis may not factor in the latest price-sensitive company announcements or qualitative material.


Oct. 28, 2022 – Stock Market Updates

What Happened in the Stock Market As of Oct. 28, 2022?

Global Stock Market Insights for week ending 28th of October from Simplywall.St

Investor optimism prevailed this past week as equity markets continued their (bear market) rally, with the S&P 500 up as much as 11% from the recent low. This was despite disappointing results from Microsoft and Alphabet. The USD began to weaken which helped energy and materials shares to strong gains.

U.S. Sector 7D Performance – 28th October 2022 – Simply Wall St

Some of the developments we have been watching over the last week include:

The U.K. Has Its Third Prime Minister in Less than Two Months

Things continue to move quickly in the U.K., with Rishi Sunak taking over as Prime Minister less than a week after Liz Truss resigned. The Conservative Party has come full circle, from electing a leader seemingly oblivious to market forces, to electing a former hedge fund manager who we presume knows all about markets.

Regardless of Sunak’s background, the role might be a poisoned chalice – the U.K. is facing its biggest challenges in decades. These include:

  • Economic growth has been evaporating over the last four quarters. One recent survey suggests the economy has already fallen into a recession, and even the more optimistic projections are for growth to be close to zero next year.
  • The country is facing record high inflation – partly as a result of the war in Ukraine, but also a result of the weakening currency. This leaves consumers with less for discretionary spending which impacts the economy further.
  • The British Pound had plunged to its lowest level against the U.S. Dollar since 1985.
  • Government debt is rising, and the cost of servicing that debt is also rising as interest rates rise.
  • The consequences of Brexit have made Britain less competitive and is expected to reduce productivity – meaning citizens will on average be poorer.
  • The possibility of electricity rationing if Russia cuts off gas supplies .

What can the new PM do to fix the Economy?

It may seem like an impossible task, but economies can and do emerge from situations like this – it’s really a question of how long it takes and how much more damage will be done.

Sunak’s solution may include a combination of spending cuts, higher taxes and deregulation to encourage investment (i.e. less government influence). Until inflation comes under control, there will probably be a focus on austerity (cost cutting), and then if inflation does come down, more expansive policies can be enacted.

How much he gets done will also depend on Sunak overcoming political challenges. Opposition parties are demanding a general election, while his own party is divided and may not back him all the way.

Advanced Economy GDP Growth Projections – Image Credit: IMF

The Insight: The Big Challenge for U.K.’s new PM

Rishi Sunak has two tasks:

  1. In the short term he needs to restore confidence amongst the public, investors, and businesses. If he can’t do that, his job will also be on the line – and so will most of the Tory MPs as a general election may be inevitable. If he can restore confidence, we would probably see the currency and financial market’s strengthen.
  2. In the longer term, he’ll need to produce a plan to reignite the UK economy, in the face of rising inflation and debt. This is quite a task, but he will need to restore investor confidence or investors might use any strength as another selling opportunity.

For Short or Medium-Term Investors (< 5 years)

We have mentioned before that U.K. companies focused on the local economy have been worst affected by the country’s economic crisis, while global companies fared better because their international revenue came from elsewhere, and are now worth more when brought back to GBP.

The chart below illustrates the point. The red line is the CBOE index of the largest 100 companies in the UK, while the blue line is the index of the 250 companies ranked 101 to 350 by market cap.

U.K. Large cap vs Small cap Performance YTD  – Image Credit:

Now, if Sunak manages to restore confidence, this outperformance may reverse. Investor confidence would result in a stronger currency, which would also be supported by rising interest rates and any spending cuts that may occur.

Larger companies would then be worth less in GBP terms because their international revenues would also be worth less in GBP. At the same time, if investor confidence improves, it could lead to bargain hunting amongst the smaller companies that have been hammered over the last year.

But, it’s important to stress that any outperformance might be short lived if Sunak can’t deliver on his second task – which is to produce a credible plan to reignite the U.K.’s growth.

For Long-Term Investors (5+ years)

U.K. equities are trading on lower P/E ratios than equities in other developed countries – so if things normalize over time and the UK manages to muddle through the next few years, they have a real possibility to outperform. The most important question investors need to ask themselves when assessing a stock in this market is resilience – can this business survive another few years of challenging economic conditions?

Chinese Stocks’ Lowest Fall Since 2008

On Monday, stocks in China and Hong Kong plunged after the CCP’s 20th Congress ended. The Chinese Yuan also fell to a new low against the US Dollar, though it recovered later in the week after state banks stepped in to support the currency (they sold USD).

Investors fear that China’s President Xi Jinping has consolidated his power and will continue to prioritize ideology over economic growth or stability. There are also concerns about the appointment of combat-ready generals – and what that might entail. For a more comprehensive rundown on what’s happened, here’s Bloomberg’s take on the Chinese president’s rule and a longer term outlook for the Chinese economy from the Financial TImes.

Hong Kong sector performance last 30 days- 26th October 2022 – Simply Wall St

In August, we looked at some of the cracks appearing in China’s economy, and the many reasons investors have to be worried about Chinese investments.

We can summarize these concerns as follows:

  • China’s zero-Covid policy, which is slowing the economy due to the endless number of lockdowns.
  • The country’s current mortgage and real estate crisis, which could drag the financial sector into an even bigger crisis.
  • China’s increasingly hostile relationship with Taiwan.
  • The crackdown on Chinese tech and education companies.
  • The revival of the ‘Common Prosperity ’ policy and what that means for economic policy.
  • Lack of audit transparency for listed companies.

We can add to this list the effect of U.S. controls of semiconductor related companies – and potential retaliation from China. In addition, President Xi’s consolidated power means there is more chance that China will double down on many of the policies that investors believe have failed.

The Insight: China’s Politics Heavily Influence the Markets

The evolving situation has made China-related stocks a proxy for overall investor sentiment, rather than underlying company fundamentals. This is exaggerated by the fact that most institutions outside China have exited these stocks, leaving them to the mercy of retail investors and hedge funds. This is likely to remain the case for a long time, and why some investors have said the market “is uninvestable” .

What does all this mean for investors?

Chinese tech stocks like Alibaba ( NYSE:BABA ), ( Nasdaq:JD ) and Tencent ( SEHK: 700 ) are widely regarded as trading at bargain prices right now. But price targets and analyst forecasts are falling just as fast as the share prices – as an example, Alibaba’s 12-month price targets have fallen 63% since January last year.

In time, they may turn out to be bargains – but they come with considerable risk. Perhaps it would be prudent for a risk-averse investor to keep any allocation they have to these stocks at a level that won’t break your portfolio. Remember to focus on your personal risk profile and financial objectives to determine if positions like these deserve a seat in your portfolio.

Additionally, it’s not just companies based in China that we need to pay attention to. Lots of multinational companies have some sort of exposure to China. Investors should constantly review their portfolios to see how their stock holdings may be affected, and whether it would be more in-line with their investment objectives to refresh their portfolio holdings.

Two groups of stocks to pay particular attention to are:

  • Companies that rely on Chinese consumers for growth – examples include Apple ( Nasdaq:AAPL ), Nike ( NYSE:NKE ), Tesla ( Nasdaq:TSLA ) and Starbucks ( Nasdaq:SBUX ). These companies could be affected by China’s economic slump as well as US/China relations.
  • The second group is resource producers that supply iron ore, copper and other commodities to China. Examples include BHP ( ASX:BHP ) and Rio Tinto ( LSE:RIO ).

Key Events Next Week

It’s another Fed Funds week with the U.S. central bank announcing the Fed Funds target rate on Wednesday. It is expected by analysts to rise 0.75% again.

Australia’s central bank is also expected to announce the latest interest rate on Tuesday. Again, expectations are for it to rise, but only 0.25% – lower than the 0.5% hikes in previous months.

In the U.S., the latest trade data will be out on Thursday, and then on Friday, non-farm payrolls and the unemployment rate will be published.

Third quarter earnings season continues with numerous companies reporting. Some of the prominent names include:

Until next week,

Invest Well,

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Oct 14, 2022 – Stock Market Updates

Global Stock Market Insights for week ending 14th of October from Simplywall.St

Market volatility picked up again last week after the Bank of England said it will end its bond buying on Friday as planned, the IMF cut global growth forecasts, and inflation data suggested rate hikes are set to continue.


Sept 2, 2022 – Stock Market Updates

Market Insights for week ending 2nd September from Simplywall.St

Words carry a lot of weight in markets these days. Investors came to terms with the fact that rate hikes won’t be ending soon after commentary from Fed Chairman Jerome Powell re-affirmed that more rate rises are likely. The selling in equity markets this past week was broad-based, and even Energy stocks that have rallied in past weeks gave up recent gains along with the oil price.


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I was able to grab hold of the latest financial report of eToro as follows:



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Generally there are three major reasons why you do not have the same return as the person you are copying:

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